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April 22, 2009

Mark Steyn Is Depressing Me (PC Absurdities Growing, and We Doze)

Filed under: Politics — SwittersB @ 9:35 PM
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Some blogs are so high on Mark Steyn. I try to be but here is the stumbling point for me: I don’t think I have the mental fortitude to daily read Steyn’s remarks about the already berserk PC dogma rampant around Europe, Canada and, of course, increasingly here.

His wit aside, Steyn is scaring the hell out of me. There is no ability, any more, to laugh at the absurdities of Euro demise, because now I think we are destined for even more absurdities. The thought of this is depressing. I do not see nor envision anyone right now to lead us out of this mess. I do not see anyway to not ever increasingly become pissed off at our neutered status.

I need to see that the Steyn’s are making a dent in the minds of the non-choir. I desperately need to see something principled and non-cliche. The worst thing I can see in the debate of ideals is for the Right to adopt the same tired, simplistic trigger words to manipulate the masses… make the words into complete sentences and make them linked to valid ideals not emotions. I am disgusted with the simplistic ways of viewing life by Americans. I am enormously disgusted with the mind games strategists employ to propagandize us….this is sick….deadly sick. People will get hurt, liberty will be trampled with this manipulation…far greater than any nationalistic flag waving by RINO’s.

I am, of course, thanking the Good Lord above for Mark Steyn. I just hope I have the strength to walk thru the mental muck.         



  1. You touched on something I’ve been noticing about my self more recently as well. 10 years ago Steyn’s stuff had me rolling out of my breakfast chair. Now, i agree, I’m overwhelmed by it. It isn’t so funny anymore when you can clearly see it’s not just absurd anecdotes anymore. That, in europe at least, it’s a fact of every day life and it’s met with indifference at best. We are now where England was 10 years ago. Standing at the shore with our arms held out, watching the tidal wave approach.
    I never though I’d say this, but Steyn’s not funny anymore.

    Comment by Stop-the-train — April 23, 2009 @ 4:59 PM | Reply

    • Well, he is less funny and more serious and I can imagine what he thinks after his Canadian debacle. Sobering to say the least. That episode was sobering to me. It is coming, I fear..behavior tribunals. But, you know I walked into a Tabacco shop today and as I perused the shelves I could hear Mark filling in for Rush. I said to the owner…’oh, you are listening to Mark Steyn, isn’t he so funny?’ And, he said, ‘I am so pissed off anymore whether I read Steyn or luck out and hear him. We’re in trouble.’ It is a clear case of don’t shoot the messenger! I love him and am amazed…the subject matter seems much closer and more dangerous now. Thanks for visiting….and so wisely commenting.

      Comment by swittersb — April 23, 2009 @ 5:23 PM | Reply

    • It is not funny anymore, by IT I mean the Global situation.

      The Taliban are 50 miles from Islamabad right now. They get control of Pakistani Nukes ???????????

      A bunch on ding-a-lings running the U.S.A.????

      Not to much to smile about.

      I still like Mark Steyn.

      Comment by C.Mark Shurtz — April 23, 2009 @ 6:47 PM | Reply

      • Ditto…I hope everyone knows I was tongue in cheek, but because of what you and Wakefield said…serious stuff…you struck the nerve that has me so troubled.

        Comment by swittersb — April 23, 2009 @ 8:05 PM

  2. Take heart, former Steynian wondering where the punchlines are.

    Think of it like this:

    Gallows humor is there for a reason. But keep in mind the punchline is often more subtle.

    The goings on around us that Steyn comments on are NOT all that funny, and while some people say it’s the media, and not the message that really matters, the very fact that the crap the new administration is pulling being faster than even my diehard conservatarian friends would have placed Vegas bets on is depressing the stand-up routine of such Steynpost ditties as “now we’re set to carpetbomb Africa with condoms actually produced over in China.”

    And so forth.

    Today’s Steynpost on how Bo’Rock-the-Bama is now “Junta”-fying policies (hypocritically hitting the bad old CIA days under the era of Bush/Cheney terror in order to have a “bloodpurge” of the previous ideology and creating media distractions from his rapid socialization) was morbid even as Steyn chortled over his own callers.


    But when all is lost and the world is going to hell (or maybe just you and me personally, along with some other fine folks who got on the wrong side of Napolitano, the new Duchess of Waco) you hold you head high and remember that Steyn is probably going to be in the chamber next to you joking about the fact that the Canadians made sure that the rope is made of 100% real hemp.

    I try to run my own Attila the Hun blog but the worst depression to set in is more to the tun of a question:

    What for?

    Why bother, unless I’m just SO delighted to mix personal insight with the world’s crap and make commentary on it with a rather thin veneer of political science and western political philosophy background hiding the anger at the more simple and basic truth of things following Murphy’s Law more so than any real conspiracy on some Palpatine level.

    I hardly even have time anymore.

    What to do?

    Comment by Wakefield Tolbert — April 23, 2009 @ 6:41 PM | Reply

    • So very well stated…thank you.

      Comment by swittersb — April 23, 2009 @ 8:06 PM | Reply

    • Dear WT:

      Yes, what to do? Without a platform, money and power and even then, it’s a closed and wilfully closed paradigm most folks inhabit.

      As I ever up the massive absorption of insight via books, sites and articles and wearily yes, even my own horrible local experiences in Melbourne Australia with the local leftards and Muslim stealth jihad circus geeks, I experience waves and troughs of fright and a feeling of inevitable doom. No really, I do. There’s also a negative side too… Haha.

      I love Steyn and P.J O’Rourke, who is here at the moment. But so much is wrong and one cannot get through to non-conservatives non-libertarians et al. It’s like living in The Invasion Of The Body Snatchers…

      “No, everything seems ok to me. What do you mean?”

      All the best from Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com

      Comment by Colonel Robert Neville — April 24, 2009 @ 3:17 AM | Reply

  3. As a relative late-comer (have only read Steyn for 12 months or so……and many others since as a result, mind you, as America Alone was something of an awakening for me) I feel exactly the same way.

    I’ve noticed that Steyn himself rarely uses the words “depressing”, “pessimistic” etc. I envy him the fact that he is very balanced in his range of interests, obviously managing to pursue and enjoy other things- music etc- despite the pervasive doom everywhere. I’m not intending to be hyperbolic here: if you actually believe- and I think there’s a very strong case for it- that there is every possibility that there will be total societal collapse- violent collapse- in our lifetimes, it’s difficult to not think about it almost daily and become mightily distracted from getting on with life, given what’s in the news. (Perhaps “getting on with life” and enjoying it is not something we can afford to do now, as Steyn alludes to in his book, re enjoying freedom rather than fighting for it?). Steyn’s “fringes-of-the-map-badness” do indeed advance day by day…..Mumbai, Sharia in the Swat Valley, piracy on the seas…….. not to mention the micro-appeasement that takes place in civic institutions in every corner of the West.

    I am not exaggerating when I say that I went into a depressive state for about 4 months after reading AA- initially determined to “do something”, only to realize the total hopelessness of the situation……. the almost complete lack in the West of “confidence and will”. At the time (no doubt made the situation worse) I had several discussions with a Muslim colleague who expressed many deeply disturbing (but not unsurprising) views. I mentioned to another (“Western”) colleague that this man advocated Sharia law including execution of adulterers etc, anticipating the appropriate horrified reaction….but (even more disturbing than the Muslim colleague’s views) he said, “The thing is, my understanding of Sharia is that it’s actually a very fair system as the onus is on the community to prevent things such as the need for the individual to steal, because everyone is provided for…….”. That is the next stage of appeasement for sure- Leftists arguing not just that its introduction is a requirement on the grounds of multicultural sensitivity, but that Sharia is actually founded on brotherhood-of-man ideals and similarly admirable moral principles.
    (Reminded me of an interesting piece on the Islamist ideology:

    As Steyn points out, The Western World really is going down the toilet on so many levels….there appears to be no spine- no will- to stave this off. I know it’s turned into something of a cliché to say it, but it recently occurred to me- actually struck me for the first time- how disgusting it is to think that so many men died, as recently as 60-70 years ago (as well as more recently), defending future generations .….for us to go and do what?

    This Bruce Bawer column from today (also City Journal) about Europe “turning right” is worth reading
    Echoes of Steyn- and depressing to see that, alas, the emerging alternative to the Left’s secular-nanny-state seems to be old-fashioned fascism, as moderate conservative parties are only offering a variation of Euro-welfare. The BNP (and similar racist parties) are now enjoying increased popularity in the UK/Europe.…..again, disturbing to see Steyn’s predictions come true along the lines of Europeans choosing between the two extremes of appeasement and fascism. It’s not funny to think that Steyn’s “Greater Bosnia” model of the future of Europe might actually occur in the not-too-distant future.

    Reading blogs like these, I only hope that there is an as-yet largely “unharnessed energy” out there in the blogosphere that might be transformed into real action- and soon.

    Comment by Julie — April 23, 2009 @ 10:54 PM | Reply

  4. Great post. And you have some very smart readers here.

    What’s happening is horrifying and hard to watch. It took me a month to get through America Alone just because this truth is hard to take. And an enemy within is an even more bitter truth.

    I’ve started re-reading the Tripod series, children’s sci-fi about aliens that came to earth and cleverly subjugated mankind by taming their wills so well that the humans look forward to it as a rite of passage. I don’t remember exactly what it was, but something we were saying about Obama (maybe that TIME article) prompted one of my kids to say, “That’s just like in Tripods.” (First book of 4: The White Mountains. We like to read the prequel, When the Tripods Came, last.)

    I often feel beaten down by the hope-n-change and it’s only been a few months. Hyacinth Girl, a huge Steyn fan, feels tired, too.

    I’m not much of a cheerleader but that doesn’t matter because we know we can’t give up. But it is very discouraging.

    Thanks for the links. 🙂 Hope I didn’t botch the HG link.

    Comment by Jill — April 24, 2009 @ 3:35 AM | Reply

  5. Dude! Check out his home page — you’re the Mark Steyn reader of the day!!

    Comment by Jill — April 24, 2009 @ 3:57 AM | Reply

    • Oh my, every dog has his day! Honored. Reading blogs like yours and the above comments give me hope that others have similar thoughts and from this there is an energy to rebuild and fight this….or…..commiserate from off stage. Thanks

      Comment by swittersb — April 24, 2009 @ 7:00 AM | Reply

  6. Colonel

    We salute you.


    Comment by Wakefield Tolbert — April 24, 2009 @ 7:39 AM | Reply

  7. Two undisputable facts about Steyn:
    1) He is rivetingly witty and entertaining;
    2) His subject matters are unbelievably depressing.

    We have entered some hard times. It appears likely that harder times are yet to come. Want some hope?

    While there are lots of socialists, fascists, and one-world-government types out there, they are not having children. All the children (and that is only barely hyperbole) are being borne by conservatives. The foes of freedom and liberty are too busy enjoying their own liberty to have children interfere with their lifestyle, and contraception and abortion make it very easy for them to create Steyn’s fabled inverted family trees.

    Homeschooling is legal in all 50 states. Fecundity is a great weapon to bring to a culture war, so long as we are not just creating the next generation of libs. If we bear children and devote ourselves to preserving intact families that pass their faith and values along to their children, our children shall meekly inherit the earth.

    Don’t think of Steyn’s humor as gallows humor. Instead view it as the good cheer and buoyancy that sustains those of us who do not live with no hope. We can have hope even in the face of remorseless evil. After all, we know the One who overcame evil and death.

    Comment by ubercheesehead — April 24, 2009 @ 1:34 PM | Reply

    • Yeah, Uber–that has come to the attention of more than just Steyn.

      And we’re hearing more about it. Both positive and the inevitable negative, of course.

      Speaking of homeschooling and fecundity(which as a father of three boys who’re homeschooled, I’m at least ahead of the public school rot regarding ideology and ahead of the demographic curve of the average 2.1 replacement level statisticians say is necessary to maintain social security and replacement levels of workers, etc) and the fact that areas like Salt Lake City and South Carolina have a little more umph in the demographics than the liberal areas like Vermont.

      Well now: You’ll enjoy THIS:

      Interestingly, those who disdain and mock Steyn and the Steynians for bringing up the late unpleasantry of what is happening in Europe when the old folks homes are busy and the society is saddled with sumptious health care plans and other goody-bag handouts, YET the maternity wards are lacking the babies requisite for paying for all this crap (except for those moms wearing hajibs and praising Allah for every male birth), often claim that demography is meaningless.

      The natives might be nervous in Europe, but Euro socialism has nothing to fear, they tell us. Nothing to see hear. Sharia Law in Britain no big deal–just part of the Multicultural, PC nanny state making cosmic justice out of..well….every thing that happens.

      More fool them.

      When it comes to things stateside, you can be darn tootin’ sure that more than a few liberal/left activist movers and shakers and scribblers have taken note of what you just mentioned.

      Fecundity. Which they hate in the first place now the the womb is enslavement to some feminist ideology. But worse, fecundity of a certain religion or ideology brand.

      Yeah–ya guessed it:

      Like hell they’re not fretting:

      Comment by Wakefield Tolbert — April 24, 2009 @ 5:16 PM | Reply

  8. I am a Mark Steyn supporter and approver. I think he is as funny as ever, but, as with all great humourists, his humour is based in truth and I think his prescience regarding things like free speech and the future of Europe has begun to hit us in reality. In a sense, his secret is out and, as a result, his humour touches too closely sometimes. See Mark Twain and Kurt Vonnegut.

    Comment by Mike — April 25, 2009 @ 8:15 PM | Reply

    • Well said, Mike….”his humor touches too closely…” And, thank goodness he is there to cause focus and to hopefully awaken the distracted. Thanks for taking tme to comment.


      Comment by swittersb — April 25, 2009 @ 8:24 PM | Reply

  9. You are awesome. I feel the same way about Steyn. So much truth, but it scares the ever-living jello out of me.

    Comment by Rach — August 11, 2009 @ 12:51 PM | Reply

    • Hey, thanks Rach. You’re very kind. You inspired me to go back and update that little post a little. Yeah, it’s a disturbing giggle watching the 1974 Donald Sutherland version of The Invasion Of The Body Snatchers. It’s Obamalism RIGHT NOW. It’s a global podcast! Hey, and how about that Wakefield Tolbert? When I’m a rich media giant or even a semi successful media midget, I’ll hire him first. He’s fab and witty fun.

      Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com.

      Comment by Colonel Robert Neville — August 12, 2009 @ 4:50 PM | Reply

  10. Thanks, CRN, for the kind words, as you and I both know, we were not properly appreciated over on that dungeon called Balloon Juice a few weeks back. But still.

    And I’ll be DAMNED here. I was crusing through the blogospere and email and remembered this very post.

    I enjoy annoying the Left almost as much as eating and watching old TV reruns, when possible. And these days, the annoyance factor is more than possible!

    Comment by Wakefield Tolbert — August 12, 2009 @ 8:53 PM | Reply

  11. Hey WT.. Yeah, balloonjuice. What bums. They certainly were lacking as hosts were they not? The salad forks were warm, no finger bowls and they were rabid moonbats to boot. Yep, reruns. That IS the left! Thus “I think we’ve seen this one..Yeah, it’s where Max is taken prisoner by the Groovy GurObama!”

    Hahaha! Larry Storch was Bill Ayers! “Kill kill kill, such a thrill! Yeah yeah yeah, knock off a square! Make the scene, kill the Dean!” No really.

    All the best from Colonel Neville.

    Comment by Colonel Robert Neville — August 13, 2009 @ 1:57 AM | Reply

  12. That explains it al…seedpods!

    Comment by Creekwalker — August 13, 2009 @ 6:36 PM | Reply

  13. Colonel, as one who dresses for dinner, I’m sure you noticed as I did the lack of protocol and courtesy in such outlets.

    People used to dining by candlelight and fine china do tend to get very consernated in the unwarrented presence of inappropriate accoutrements and bad table manners.

    Without being too elitist, it’s never a good idea to dine in the presence of swine, be it the two-footed or four-footed variety.

    As far as seedpods, we do seem to be entering the age of the Invasion of the Ideology Snatchers.

    Be on guard, and sleep next to the coffee pot with one eye open.

    Comment by Wakefield Tolbert — August 14, 2009 @ 12:58 PM | Reply

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